General English Level 5 V 3
UNIT 02 The world we live in TOPIC 05 Trees or jobs?
Listening LISTENING 01 Trees or jobs?
Two people are discussing the topic of logging old forests on a TV panel discussion.
Host:
Good evening, everyone, and welcome to the show. Tonight we have two interesting people with us. On my left, Jonathan Price, CEO of the Forestry Industries Commission.
Jon:
Thanks, Jack. Please call me Jon.
Host: OK, Jon. And on my right, Melinda Watson, Leader of the National Green Party.
Melinda: Good to be here, Jack.
Host: Right. Well, let's get straight into our discussion. Melinda, can I ask you your thoughts on the new plans from the Forestry Industries Commission to increase the number of logging operations over the next five years?
Melinda: Quite honestly, Jack, I think it's outrageous. We live in a beautiful country, but our forests are rapidly decreasing and we are losing many natural habitats.
Jon: That's not true, Melinda. New laws mean that we replant all of the felled trees. We do care about our environment.
Melinda: If you really cared, you wouldn't destroy the habitats of so many creatures. Of course, we humans are sad because we are losing beautiful places to walk in and enjoy, but animals, birds and insects are losing their homes.
Jon: Hmmm, well, maybe for a while - but how about the people who live in the area? They need jobs so they can afford homes, too. New logging operations bring money into the area.
Melinda: That's all you care about, isn't it? Money.
Jon: No, not at all. We need timber to support many other industries and businesses. As long as we replant as we go, and take care not to pollute, there shouldn't be a problem.
Host: I don't think Melinda agrees with you, Jon.
Melinda: That's right, Jack, I don't. I'm sure you are both aware of the many problems caused by logging. When we cut down trees from a wide area, rain washes away the topsoil and causes erosion. This leads to pollution of rivers, as the fertilisers are washed away with the soil.
Jon: But, Melinda, I've already explained that we have a strict programme of reforestation, which solves these problems. We are also very careful with fertilisers and chemicals - and road building, too.
Melinda: Perhaps in theory. But in practice, the large machinery used for logging destroys the soil structure, resulting in less re-growth for several years.
Jon: Yes, that's true, but we are working hard towards sustainable forests, and we offer continuing education for loggers. I think we need to educate the industry and the public on how we can help the economy.
Melinda: Well, I think that's one thing we can agree on: education is the key to our future.